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TVLINE | When Rick had his Dirty Harry line at the end, are we to interpret that as him kind of making peace with the monster that this new world has made him? RELATED | Cable Renewal Scorecard: What’s Getting Cancelled? What’s Returning? I do feel like we did push things to the edge in that episode, I don’t think we went quite over the edge. And I hope that people still see the entertainment value of watching these people survive. I hope that we’re walking that line well. It is a fine line that we’re trying to walk here, between being realistic and also being unrelentingly dark and morbid. We’re not really pushing the envelope too far. It’s not like we’re portraying things that don’t, unfortunately, happen in real life. We try not to shy away from the depths that people can sink to in various situations. But when it came time to adapt that for the show… We are trying to realistically portray the kind of things that would happen after the fall if civilization. When I was writing the original comics, in the panel description for artist Charlie Adlard I, “Carl is on his back, and the guy is pulling his paints off – but don’t worry Charlie, he’s not going to get raped!” I actually included that in the panel description because it is such a heavy and dark scene, and I didn’t want Charlie to be freaking out while he was trying to draw that. That scene has always been a really difficult one. What was the discussion like surrounding how dark to play that sequence from the comics - especially coming so soon after last week’s Lizzie horror show. TVLINE | It was incredibly disturbing to see Carl almost get raped. When it comes to Carl there are no rules. He throws it all completely out of the window and kind of becomes an animal. He spent the whole season trying to show Carl that, “We have to retain our humanity, we have to not lose ourselves, and we have to not allow this world to darken us or steal away what it is that makes us people.” Yet, when the chips are down and he has no other recourse he loses all of that. He would definitely throw everything out the window for the kid’s safety - which, in a sense, is kind of what happened in the finale. I think that for all of his rules and all of his attempts at being a leader and trying to set a good example he would in a minute break the rules for Carl. But, sure, there’s somewhat of a hypocritical element in Rick.

While Hershel felt like it was very definitive that the kid posed no threat, there was a little bit of ambiguity there. The situation with Carl was somewhat different. Does it make Rick a hypocrite for banishing Carol for killing Karen and David, both of whom actually did pose a threat? TVLINE | We were reminded in the finale that Carl shot a boy who basically posed no imminent threat. If Beth ever comes back, hopefully, we’ll find a definitive answer to that. Whether or not that would eventually grow into a romantic relationship we’re keeping ambiguous, much like the relationship between Daryl and Carol was fairly ambiguous. Daryl is very protective and he’s formed very strong bonds with a lot of characters, Carol included. TVLINE | Has Daryl developed more than brotherly feelings for Beth? PHOTOS | Walking Dead: 10 Characters From the Comic We Want to Meet They’re actually a lot more dangerous and a little bit scarier when it all comes to light. It’s a completely alien environment with very strange people that live in a very specific and strange way that is in no way any kind of remnant of what we knew before. It had a leader who had a lot of secrets, but, on the surface, it was a place where families could live and people could survive. Woodbury was much more of a return to civilization. TVLINE | How does the Terminus situation differ from Woodbury? In each case, we have a group of people whose method of surviving poses a threat to our core characters. Or, maybe, they found a Denny’s and they’re just having a good time. They could be in part of the barbecue, as you say. We’ll deal with fairly quickly when we come back for Season 5. And leaving the fate of Beth and Carol and Tyreese and Judith completely ambiguous kind of gives us that. Seeing that group in the train car and knowing that all of those people are together and that Rick is very capable and very prepared… We kind of felt like we needed more unknowns to keep people guessing. TVLINE | Why not give us a clue about their fate, especially coming off of last week’s harrowing episode? It’s certainly fine for people to speculate. I’m stopping myself from making very horrible jokes. TVLINE | Do you want us to be thinking that Carol and Tyreese could be in the Sloppy Joes that Mary served Rick & Co.? RELATED | AMC Orders Walking Dead Spin-Off - Get Scoop on the Premise